#415 AI Made Simple: Why Your Business Can't Afford to Wait - with Rajeev Kapur

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Mehmet: Hello and welcome back to a new episode of the CTO show with Mehmet. Today I'm very pleased joining me from the U. S. on the west coast, Rajeev Kapur, president and CEO of ADD. I'm not sure how I'm going to pronounce this, but it's like 1 media. Is that right, Rajeev? So the [00:01:00] way I Yeah, yeah. So I like to let you do the introduction, tell us about yourself and about your company, and then we can take the discussion from there.

Rajeev: Yeah, it's called 11. 05 media. And 1105 media is a B2B marketing media events and technology services company. And we're one of the, probably one of the largest here in the U S doing what we do. So essentially our main job to put it easy for everybody to understand is we connect buyers. With sellers of technology product.

Rajeev: So that's what we do. So we're kind of a middleman in that space. And so we have about 65 brands that do that. And, you know, we have amazing content and it's all focused on B2B. There's no, there's no consumer focused media. It's all B2B medium. And you know, we focus on the Microsoft stack of products.

Rajeev: We focus on cloud AI, big data analytics. Cybersecurity. And so what we do then is we, we, we create all, we create [00:02:00] this kind of media space for it, event space for it. And then we go out and get leads and sponsors and, you know, so we make money and it does pretty well.

Mehmet: Cool. A little bit about your background, Ajeeb.

Mehmet: Like I know like you have work. You know, multiple places in different countries. So what brought you to this space? I would say,

Rajeev: good question. So, you know, a little bit about my background, right? So I I'm a, I'm, I'm a lot older than I look. So, so, I'm 57 and back in the early nineties, I was in the PC industry.

Rajeev: And I, you know, I was at a PC company. And then after that I got recruited to Dell and I started my, and essentially was one of Michael Dell's first executive assistants that that was pretty awesome back in the early nineties. And then from there, it just kind of kept working my way up the ladder at Dell and eventually was in Asia for Dell and, and ran South [00:03:00] Asia for Dell.

Rajeev: Helped to launch Dell India for a domestic consumption perspective and just living in Singapore and lived in Hong Kong and parts of China and just, but just, you know, a lot of fun, great experiences and all that. And then from there I got recruited to join, become president of an e commerce company here in Southern California.

Rajeev: Then after that went to a venture backed startup in the in the AI audio space. So kind of doing AI before a AI was popular. And so did that, and that company eventually sold in, in Europe. And then I was sitting around after that company sold for about a month or so. And I'm a member of this organization called YPO, which I'm sure you've heard of.

Rajeev: The young president's organization. I'm not young anymore, but I joined it when I was young. And so, I was sitting around and there's a member of the board is a good friend of mine. And he called me up and said, Hey, we're, we're we really want you to make some changes here. And. We've got some new private equity money here.

Rajeev: And so it just really needs some help into fixing, turning around this [00:04:00] business. Are you interested in, I said, ah, you know, I just, you know, I just decided to take a little bit of a break. He goes, well, the good news is they have an office five minutes from your house. I said, oh, okay. So then I talked to the guys and.

Rajeev: It all worked out and so now i've been here and so i've been doing this now for a lot last seven Nine ten years and it's been it's been a fun bumpy ride we turned it around right when things were going really really good coveted And so then we took a big decline during covet, right? So now we're building back up from from post covet But yeah, it's it's it's a fun.

Rajeev: It's it's a fun thing. It's a fun ride

Mehmet: cool And as if you mentioned ai a lot and I know you know, we're gonna focus a little bit about ai You With all the experience that also you have carried over the years so and to your point Yeah, like AI people now talks about AI, especially after you know, the gen AI came Like I think it's now two years right since since they released chat gpt in this mass way But if we think [00:05:00] about it from you know Adoption and the real implementation strategy, right?

Mehmet: So Do you think that you know? Businesses really adopted this AI in the right, proper way that they should do. And what do you think, you know, like the, the most, you know, critical right. If I can call it for, for AI transformation for, for traditional businesses.

Rajeev: Yeah, you know, you know, Mehmet, I'll tell you the answer to your question.

Rajeev: I think the answer is no, they're not, you know, they're not, they're not implementing it the right way and that's fine. I mean, to many of them, it's still very new. It's like when the internet first came out, people didn't know what to do. And so it's fine. You know, the two year anniversary of chat GPT coming out is coming up on November 30th.

Rajeev: But keep in mind, there's two kinds of AI. There's machine learning AI, which we already. We're all very familiar with, but even though we probably don't realize we're familiar with, [00:06:00] and then you have your generative AI, which is the chat GPT stuff. So forget about the chat GPT stuff for just a minute. And let's just talk about machine learning AI.

Rajeev: And so one of the things about machine learning AI that we're all kind of familiar with is my, my, my friend, do you have a, do you have a, a Netflix account? Yeah. So do you have an Amazon account? Of course. Okay. Well, when you watch a show on, on Netflix. What is it? What happens after you're done watching that show?

Rajeev: It says, do you like the show? Give it a thumbs up or give it a thumbs down. Right. Why is it doing that? It's doing that because it wants your feedback. It understands you watch the show. It understands how many minutes you put into the show, but now I want to know if you'd like the show. Once it knows you like that show, it's going to use AI now, machine learning AI to say, Oh, Mehmet and Rajeev both like this show.

Rajeev: So we're going to make sure that we now push them content. That's kind of similar to this show. That's using AI that's using AI. [00:07:00] So when you, when you, if you're listening to this podcast and you're watching you, then the next time you're on Netflix and you, and it says, Oh, because you watch this show, we recommend this show that's AI.

Rajeev: And so that's machine learning AI, but it's AI. And so that stuff companies are doing and people are familiar with because they're doing it already in their day to day life, they just don't realize it. The second one, Amazon, you bought this product. We recommend this product, right? That's AI. Right. It knows your habits.

Rajeev: It's learning your habits based on your input. So that's machine learning AI. And that type of stuff exists today. As long as you have great data. Sticking with Amazon. So Amazon and people can go Google and find this is they're changing the way their delivery drivers now deliver packages. And the reason why they're doing that is they found because they have all the data now, and you need data to do really well with AI.

Rajeev: If you don't have good data, you're going to fail miserably. So if you're listening, ask yourself, does my company, do I, as a [00:08:00] CEO, I, as a founder of the company, I, as a CTO, do I have good command of my data? Amazon has great command of their data because they have great command of their data. They can now go and say, okay, we know how to deliver packages.

Rajeev: We probably are the largest delivery company in the world and we know what routes we can maximize and they can now take machine learning, AI apply it and say, maximize this driver's route. And if they do that, they can do it to save gas, save time, save energy, whatever the case might be, or save electricity.

Rajeev: Cause a lot of them are electric powered their delivery vans. But if they can even save. An hour a day of delivery time, right? Take that. They estimate that could be a $1.5 billion benefit to their bottom line over the coming years. Now you take that and you take that multiple of value of what, what $1.5 billion is to Amazon.

Rajeev: The value, the value that that can bring to a trillion dollar company like Amazon is billions of dollars of valuation just by that one simple act of using machine learning ai, right? So [00:09:00] that's machine learning ai. So then you have chat, pt, chat, PT clawed, philanthropic. Mid journey, Adobe's fireflies, Gemini by Google.

Rajeev: So you have all co pilot through Microsoft. So you've all these different. LLMs or large language models that are basically either based on chat GPT or mimic chat GPT or whatever the case might be, that's new. And a lot of people don't understand how to not deploy that within the company and that within the business.

Rajeev: And that is where I think a lot of people are falling down. And a lot of people are afraid to do it because they're worried about different things, and they should be somewhat worried if they don't have good processes that are good data, but if you have good processes, you have good data. You should think about how you can start implementing this within your organization.

Rajeev: So those are the two different things. So those are the two different pieces. And chat GPT uses generative AI does not learn based on our inputs like machine learning does. And so It learns by learning everything that all the inputs are already available on the web. And that's what makes it a little bit [00:10:00] different.

Rajeev: So that's why when you hear people say it's the greatest invention since the invention of electricity, I highly believe that it's, it's going to change the world because it's essentially the most advanced tool that man has ever created. Right.

Mehmet: Now, talking about this and, you know, every time in, you know, human history where we have this kind of breakthrough in technology so we have the people who would say, okay, we got it.

Mehmet: But. Sometimes they say, okay, this is maybe, for example, we are too small for this. Or for example, they would say, we are not ready yet. So, but you know, they are taking a risk where their business might be wiped out, right? In a while. So what should be our answer to this?

Rajeev: Well, look, I mean, ask yourself, if your business never adopted the internet, where would your business be today?

Rajeev: Right. You couldn't, you couldn't exist. Like, we're doing this on the internet [00:11:00] through Steam Yard. If we didn't have the internet platform, could you do what you do? Now, yeah, you could call me on the phone or whatever in the physical landline, but it wouldn't have the same impact, right? Your ability to record it and all those things are gonna be difficult.

Rajeev: Whatever the case might be, right? So it's almost like if you're the ceo back in 1995 and this internet thing came out just like by the way Many of them did many ceos back in 95 96 did say what is this internet thing? This is wrong. It's It's bad. This is useless. No one's ever gonna do it Who's ever going to buy a book on amazon and spend six dollars for a book and spend five dollars for shipping?

Rajeev: What did people say? What did CEO say? Oh, this is dumb. This internet thing is a fad. It's not going to work. No one's ever going to buy anything online. Clothes. People want to come in and put on the clothes and try them on and whatever. Right. You know, think about it when 95, 96 was there. When internet first started rolling out, there was no social media.

Rajeev: There was no mobile revolution. There was no, you know, there was no e commerce that e commerce didn't really develop for a couple of years. And [00:12:00] so it was the same thing as true hair. You know, it's, if you ignore. AI. And remember this, like I said, there's two kinds of AI. Sure. You can be slow to adopt chat GPT, like AI, the generative AI models.

Rajeev: Sure. Be slow. You need to adopt it, but be slow. Take your time, but you can do the machine learning stuff today. Machine learning AI stuff is available right now. You can do that right now. If you have good command of your data, look, data is the new oil. And what's missing is the refinery sitting on top of that oil, right?

Rajeev: And you're, you're in Dubai, so you know that analogy pretty well. And so. It's data is going to be the new oil. And so that's, what's going to be key. It's how now you can take that data and make it say something. So that's low hanging fruit that you can look at doing it now. So ask yourself, do I have good command of my data?

Rajeev: Do I have, do I understand my data? Because the challenge with machine learning AI is going to be garbage in garbage out. So you want to make sure you have great command of your data and you have someone really good being able to analyze your Data to help you decide what what it [00:13:00] tells you so that's that's number one But i'll tell you if you decide to walk away from ai completely in your business You will be out of business in the next three to five years completely hundred percent Guaranteed.

Rajeev: So you have to do this. You cannot be afraid if imagine if think about, there was a, there used to be a company here, a bookstore here in the U S called borders books. I don't know if they had them in the middle East. So borders books was like a, there's a big chain here called Barnes and Noble. And yeah.

Rajeev: Yeah. And so, borders competed with Barnes and Noble and the CEO of borders said, this internet thing is a fad. You know people people are not going to buy anything online. They're good. They want to come into the bookstore They want instant gratification. They want to walk in buy the book go home start reading it immediately, right?

Rajeev: And so he said we're not going to do e commerce. We're going to open up more stores Well, three [00:14:00] years later, Amazon exploded. All these other e commerce exploded. Their store traffic declined dramatically. And you know what he did? He called, he called Jeff Bezos and said, Hey can you help us with our e commerce?

Rajeev: Their biggest in Amazon is another biggest competitor and Jeff Bezos. Yeah. So Jeff Bezos came in, they helped them with their with their shopping cart, told them what to do and ended up putting them out of business. Right? So again, so that's what's gonna happen to you. You think about Netflix. Netflix used to be.

Rajeev: A DVD rental, right? Where, where you, where you ordered the DVDs through the mail,

Mehmet: right?

Rajeev: And so had they not pivoted, who knows what could have happened, right? Think about blockbuster video. You know, they never pivoted when they, you know, they had a chance to buy Netflix for whatever, a billion dollars. But so, so you can, you can ignore this.

Rajeev: You're, I mean, it's a, it's, you know, it's a free society. Do what you want to do. And if you're listening to this, you are welcome to ignore this. You can listen to Rajeev and say, Rajeev, you're an idiot. You're a [00:15:00] fool. You don't know what you're talking about. By all means. I've been called worse. Ignore me if you want, but I'm telling you, ignore me at your own peril.

Rajeev: You will be out of business if you don't start to adopt this.

Mehmet: Absolutely. Rajeev, now some people who might be listening to us say, okay, Rajeev, you are right. 100%. Right. I understand. I have, I have to, to adopt, but my staff, my workforce are not ready. And there's a lot of You know, unlearning and relearning in the skill set that I need to be, you know, doing currently.

Mehmet: So what do you think really Rajeev are the, especially in the workforce perspective and COVID changed already a lot of things because, you know, it brought this flexibility, hybrid work and so on. So now the AI came just right after it. It's not like I've been long time since we came out of, of the pandemic.

Mehmet: So now I think, and you know, here, I need your opinion on this. What should we be actually doing with the workforce [00:16:00] from, you know, empowering them with this skill of using the AI?

Rajeev: Look, again, first and foremost is start with the machine learning side of AI. Make sure that you have great data. Challenge your team to go through your first party data.

Rajeev: Make sure you have them send great data and start looking at how to build machine learning algorithms around your data. Number one. So that's, that's learning food. That's available to you. You can do that right now. Okay. Now let's put that one aside. Now let's talk about the real question. The real elephant in the room.

Rajeev: It's you, you're really asking me about chat GPT and LL labs. So let's talk about that for a minute. So when I, when I launched. So I was, so when chat GPT came out, I immediately that morning sent a text to my entire management team. I told him this is going to change the world, get on it. Now we need to be covering this in our, in our business.

Rajeev: And we need to start figuring out how to adopt this in our business immediately today, literally on [00:17:00] November 30th, two years ago. And the response was you're crazy. This is ridiculous. You're an idiot. You don't know what you're doing. This is blah, blah, blah. Now they didn't use those words, but you could tell the tone of the text messages that were coming back.

Rajeev: Right. And so it reminded me of a time back in 95, 96, when I was working for Michael Dell and he said, go figure out how to sell computers on this thing called the internet. We thought he was crazy. And so, you know, lo and behold, I was right. And so what we, what did we started to do immediately within about a week or so of it, of chat GPT coming out I did a couple of things.

Rajeev: Number one is. I took one of my senior technology people and I put her kind of our quote unquote internal head of AI, so to speak Okay And her response her responsibility was to start training Our entire company on chat gpt and at the time it was the free version. There was no paid version at the time All right, what is it how to use it?

Rajeev: And so I challenged her [00:18:00] myself and I took another person who was our CTO. And so the three of us started learning chat GPT in detail, how to use it, what was prompting, we started reading all we could about it. And then from there, after a couple of weeks, we started training our staff, started with the C suite.

Rajeev: Now this has to start at the C suite. This, your C suite has to buy in. If your C suite is not willing to buy in, if there's anybody in your C suite that does not want to buy in to AI and chat GPT and generative intelligence. Or any kind of AI fire them immediately and replace them with people that do you will be you will be better for it Long term short term.

Rajeev: It might cause you a little bit of pain, but long term you will be much better for it So first thing you do is you start training your c suite and you start building a strategy around how to implement it within your business And it has to start at the top and it can't be bottoms up It has to be top down and pushed implemented into the organization number one So start with your c suite take take three to four months You Train them on [00:19:00] everything.

Rajeev: The good news is that now there's a, there's a paid version. And by the way, the enterprise, the, the, the, the team's version of chat GPT. You have no privacy concerns. They don't use your data to train. It's 25 a month versus the regular version is 20 The regular paid version is 20 a month. They do use your data to train So if you're paying 25 now, you can get the enterprise version, which is a super advanced version That's only like right now limited to large corporations.

Rajeev: That's going to cost probably millions of dollars to do Okay. So you definitely want to, you definitely want to get the team's version. You want to look at maybe getting Microsoft copilot for the rest of the company. Talk to your Microsoft rep about that, but you definitely want to start training people and start simple.

Rajeev: To me, you want to break up the training into three segments, personal, family, business. Now, why do I talk about personal and family? The, what I find and when I do my training, by the way, this is what I do, right? So I have my own AI advising company. I do this. I speak to I speak to companies all day long and advising them on AI.

Rajeev: I have a bet I have the, I had, it was the best selling AI book on Amazon called AI [00:20:00] made simple, and it's, it was designed for that person in the C suite who is scared, who wants something simple to understand, like, what is it, how to use it. So I have that book out there. So people can get that book if they want to just start doing some sort of reading to understand it.

Rajeev: What you do is you just start training the C suite. You start identifying first, how to use this for a personal use. The more people start using it for their personal use, the more they're using in business, the more they can understand and realize they can use chat GP to plan a vacation or whatever the case might be.

Rajeev: The more they're gonna start using in their business shoes. And then from there, you get into how to start using it for business. Now, I'm not gonna get into all the advanced tools it has right now, but I'm telling you, it is an amazing brainstorming partner. Just do that. And the key to learn how The key to be successful at chat GPT is just the prompt, that little window at the bottom.

Rajeev: When you open up chat GPT, that little bar at the bottom, where you type in what you want to type in. Remember, it's not a search engine yet. They're testing search features, but it's really not a [00:21:00] search engine to replace Google yet. But you definitely want to type in words of what you're looking for. Use your brain, be a storyteller in that little window, in that little rectangle box.

Rajeev: Tell people what it is, tell chat GPT what it is that you need help with. Tell, tell, give it the situation, give it a scenario and ask it for help. And don't pretend you're talking to an algorithm or a machine. Pretend you're talking to another person. As a matter of fact, if you wanna make it easier for you, give Che GCP t its own persona.

Rajeev: So what I mean by that is you can tell chat gcp. T Hey Che, GPT, I need you to pretend you're Steve Jobs. Or I need you to pretend you're Barack Obama, or I need you to, whatever, right? What, whatever you want it to be, and I need your help to solve this issue. Or I need your help to brainstorm a new product.

Rajeev: Or I need, I need you to, you know, be meed. And teach me how to launch my own podcast, or I want you to be Rajeev Kapur and, and teach me how to now train my team. And they'll give you step by step on what to do. And now you follow it. So normally [00:22:00] you would pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to consultants for this work that you can now do in 30 seconds.

Rajeev: So why would you listen to the consultant and not listen to chat GP? That's been essentially Trent trained on everything on the internet to help you be successful.

Mehmet: Absolutely. For me, like, I would say I hired the, the, the most affordable personal assistant ever. Went for, for ChargyPT because You know, to your point I do this a lot, especially what you mentioned about like giving the persona, Hey, like act as your most professional analyst in this field.

Mehmet: And this is, you know, for example, the, the scenario I have in front of me and tell me like, okay, how would you evaluate, for example, the scenario and what are the recommendations that you give? And the more details, you know, you give it surprised me every time, by the way. Which is really amazing. It's something I've never seen also before like I'm not as you know as Experienced as you Rajeev, but you know for me like this [00:23:00] was a game changer from day one when I saw it now Do you think because if there are like any businesses which are in danger and probably may be better for them now to say?

Mehmet: Hey guys We need to pivot. We need we need to go and start to think we should do something else or we need to add additional services, products, because, you know, as you said, three years from now, we're gonna become obsolete. So what are like the main business you you see they are under, you know, the radar when it comes to, you know, I would not call it danger, but okay, AI will replace what they are doing currently.

Rajeev: Yeah, I look a couple of things there on that front. Number one is when the Internet first came out, nobody knew there was going to be an Amazon. Nobody knew there would be a PayPal. Nobody knew that there would be a eventually. Be, you know, a an iPhone or, you know what I mean? Or Airbnb [00:24:00] or Uber or whatever.

Rajeev: Right. So whenever, so my point there with that statement is that nobody knows what new industries are coming. Nobody right now, there's right now, there's hundreds of billions of dollars being invested into new startups, new companies, new opportunities, new things. And it's still young and we're still probably a year or two away from a couple of years away from, from those companies really maturing and really providing value to the rest of us.

Rajeev: Normal people. Okay. So we still got some time. So now what industries I think are going to be the most affected. I think any sort of language based industries where, where that is. And what I mean by that is think of lawyers. I think the legal industry is going to is in for a lot of turmoil because every single court case in the world over time is going to be part of chat, GPT or Google Gemini or whatever the case might be.

Rajeev: Every legal doctrine in the world will be there [00:25:00] as well. And yes, there were some issues a year ago, year and a half ago with chat GPT and these tools not providing great legal advice, but that was a year and a half ago. This thing evolves in the next five years. Just think about this by end of next year, you know, the folks at open air are saying, check if he's going to have a PhD level of intelligence in the next five years, in the next five years, let's say by, well, let's just be, yeah, by 2030, it's going to be 10 trillion times smarter than it is today.

Rajeev: 10 trillion times smarter. But think about that. So, so if you are a lawyer, you need to be worried. If you are, if you have a business that's doing translation, you need to be worried. If you have a, if you have an outsourcing business, a BPO outsourcing business, you need to be worried. You know, if you have a a business that relies solely on consulting, you need to be [00:26:00] worried, right?

Rajeev: So it's those kinds of businesses that I think short term are the ones you're going to see the most. Potential impact. But the, you know, the good news is you have time, all those, whoever they are, they have time. I think the healthcare industry is also going to go through some turmoil and change as well.

Rajeev: So, you know, I think, you know, I think the automotive industry with the development of smart cars that have AI enabled that the cars can talk to each other, that's I think that's going to be an amazing transformation and that will reduce the number of car accidents we have. Cause the AI cars will talk to each other and prevent car accidents.

Rajeev: And that will reduce the number of people going to the emergency room. I think learning the way we learn is going to change. I think the way kids learn is going to change. I think Hollywood and Bollywood and all these different places, they're all going to face some sort of challenge as well.

Rajeev: Because you and I could two or three years, we can go create our own movie using AI. [00:27:00] So, so to me, it's me, those kinds of things. So there's probably many other industries that have some impact, but at the same time, all these, think about all the industries that got impacted when the internet first came out and then all the new industries that were born.

Rajeev: So there's going to be new industries that are going to be born. I think what's, I think instead of jobs, this massive job loss and, and the whole thing disappearing, now I'm not saying that the legal profession is going to go away. I just say it's going to impact, it's going to have a major impact. So if you're a law firm right now, and if you have, for example, a hundred pair legals.

Rajeev: In the future, you might need only 10. And so that's,

Mehmet: so it doesn't

Rajeev: mean that your law firm is going to go away. You still need interpretation of the law, right? You still need those things and you still need to be able to go in court and argue your case, whatever the case may be. But you just may not need as many support in the organization.

Rajeev: To do that, you can still charge as you want to charge, but if anything, it could actually benefit your bottom line, because you may not need as many people to do the job as you needed before.

Mehmet: Rajeev, one thing that [00:28:00] I, you know, last year I was hearing it more than this year. So people, one of the resistance area, I would say when, when it comes to AI saying, okay, but we're going to lose the human touch, right?

Mehmet: So. So it's going to be like dealing with a machine and, you know, machine will never have like, feelings. And, you know, it's like always, and they say it's called artificial intelligence. So it's all artificial. So what's your point of view on this?

Rajeev: Look, I, so I, I kind of take a page out of Apple's book.

Rajeev: Apple doesn't call it artificial intelligence. They call it Apple intelligence. So AI intelligence, right? So look, I, I think, I think. AI suffers from a branding problem, right? Artificial people are artificial. They think it's fake, right? It's just like how people think wrestling is fake or whatever the case might be, right?

Rajeev: But what I'm here to say is that this is not about artificial intelligence. This is about augmenting intelligence, enhancing [00:29:00] intelligence. This is about being able to have a living, Well, not living, but you know what I mean, right? But, but, but we have an assistant that literally can be with you 24 seven three 65 that can help you with any situation that you deal with in your life, be it a personal issue, a family issue, or a business issue.

Rajeev: Imagine that. Imagine if you have a problem and you can ask Steve jobs for help. Imagine if you, if you have a medical problem, you can ask the most, you can ask the absolute best doctor who's trained in that field to help you with that problem. Imagine. You are having a mental health issue and you need it and you need Chachi fatigue can become your therapist.

Rajeev: And you can literally have a full two way conversation with Chachipiti. In fact, I have a friend of mine who actually does that. Every morning in his car when he drives to work, well not every morning, but almost every morning, he will sit there and instead of listening to the radio or listening to music, he will [00:30:00] now listen, he will now have a full two way conversation with Chachipiti, where Chachipiti acts as his therapist.

Rajeev: And they have a full back and forth two way conversation. So it's things like that. So, so look, there's no silver bullet yet. If I, and I don't think there's going to be like this one silver bullet. I think there's going to be many, many little bullets that are going to provide value across the entire human race.

Mehmet: No, it's not like, because I want to go this direction, but I'm kind of sometimes think about it. from a philosophy approach as well. So if we get, you know, to this abundant source of knowledge about everything, right? So probably it's going to help us in many things. And the question that I asked a lot last year, and I keep asking, People like yourself, Rajeev.

Mehmet: So are we reaching a phase where even the [00:31:00] concept of work altogether and job altogether will change in a sense that we're going to do something more meaningful in our lives? And, you know, let's call it intelligence, not the artificial, would help us like, even like, you know, getting us the income that we need to, to survive on, and maybe even to be kind of a wealthy person.

Mehmet: And then we will be as a human become kind of just, you know, supervise these, intelligences, or I like to call them agents, because I'm a big believer in, in these agents talking to each other. And you just mentioned the car example. So if we want to, if you want to go a little bit You know, philosophical on this aspect, like, how do you, you know, see us in, in, I would say, I don't know if 10 years, five years, I'm not sure when this will happen in the future.

Mehmet: Let's call it in the future.

Rajeev: Yeah. So[00:32:00]

Rajeev: the only thing that's going to prevent you from doing anything you want to do in your life is your own imagination.

Rajeev: So look, you're going to be limited by your imagination. You can do and accomplish anything you want to accomplish with AI. And if you focus on the augmenting intelligence side and not the artificial intelligence side, it's going to make it easier for you mentally. Here's the thing. It doesn't matter if you're a billionaire, if it doesn't matter, if you're struggling to make.

Rajeev: Ends meet, you know, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you're a, if you're a single mom or a single dad and you have got kids and you have to work all the time, as long as you have a smartphone, you have access to this technology and it doesn't matter if you're in a village in Africa or a village in India, or you are in a remote part of China, you have access to a smartphone, you can, you have access to this technology and [00:33:00] anybody could do it.

Rajeev: You want to learn a language, it'll help you. You want to learn how to play an instrument. It will help you. You want to learn how to bake a cake that you've never baked before. It will help you. You want to learn how to train for a triathlon. It will tell you how to train for a triathlon, you know? So whatever goal you want to achieve in your life, it will help you achieve it.

Rajeev: You want to start a new business. It will help you figure out how to start that business. You, you, you know, you want to learn how to have a better relationship. It'll, it'll, it'll walk you through what the experts tell you and give you the best advice possible and have better relationships. So you're only going to be limited by your own imagination.

Rajeev: That's it. Period. You know, if you want to start, for example, you know, you're in Dubai, I'm in Southern California. I'm South, I'm about 35 miles South of Los Angeles and we have different climates. Well, if you wanted to start a garden in Dubai and I wanted to start a garden here, the type of plants we need are totally, probably a little bit different.

Rajeev: Well, guess what? We can, you can go and chat to your PT and [00:34:00] say, Hey, I want to create a beautiful garden and this is where I live and it gets to be really hot in the summer. What should I do? What are the best plants? Blah, blah, blah. And I'll tell you exactly what to do and how to do it and where to go and what to do and where to, you know, so you're only limited by your own imagination.

Rajeev: That's it. You know, so be imaginative. Have fun. Use these for fun, because it will be fun. Become an expert. Just like the internet changed the way you live and work, this will change the way you live and work. That's it. So, don't be afraid. Start. There's a free version. Don't have to pay for it. Don't pay the 20 bucks, the 20 US a month to do this.

Rajeev: Just, it's free. Just start. Get the free version and start playing with it. It's easy.

Mehmet: And the free version is good enough, you know, like, yeah, for most

Rajeev: people it's good enough

Mehmet: Yeah, it's the only reason I updated myself because I use it very extensively and of course, I don't want the limits and I want to have the early access just like a And okay, like it's 20 bucks as you said, so I know like we we're coming to an end but really something [00:35:00] also which I want you would achieve to, to little bit, you know, get your two cents on it.

Mehmet: Are we also seeing more collaboration between us as humans and this intelligent in the workplace in a sense that now, so we start to see this encoding, right? So we start to see, you know, the co pilot encoding co pilot in this. So, so how you envision this? Also collaboration between us humans because we are also the ones who created this AI thing, right?

Mehmet: So how we you imagine this let's say the year is now 2034 10 years from now so How do you imagine, you know a workplace to be like?

Rajeev: Yeah, I think first of all, I don't I think you're gonna have I I think you're gonna have Everybody's going to have a super intelligent system. That's part of their workforce as part of their work day.

Rajeev: Everybody's going to have their own. Are [00:36:00] you, have you seen those avengers movies, you know, with iron man and you know, the iron man, so, you know, iron man has a super AI called Jarvis member, right. We will, everybody will have their own Jarvis.

Mehmet: Yeah.

Rajeev: And so, you know, you, you will be, I think the way you interact with your technology will be very verbalized.

Rajeev: I think if I think things will be much more three dimensional, I think things will be much more holographic in nature. I think things are gonna be a lot more interactive in nature. I think you're going to have a world where you can just talk to your AI in the morning, get up and say, Hello, Rajeev. I'm please walk me through my calendar today.

Rajeev: Oh, you do this. Oh, I'm supposed to talk to Mehmet today on his podcast. Something's come up. Please reach out to him and reschedule for me. And while I'm getting ready, while I'm brushing my teeth, even if I'm in the shower or while I'm making my breakfast or [00:37:00] whatever, I can literally be having these conversations.

Rajeev: Oh, What's the deadline for the project today? Oh, today you have to deliver X, Y, and Z. Okay. How are we doing on that? Oh, you still need to do this. Hmm. Okay. Walk me through the code that we have for, for this new product. Here's the code. Hmm. I've noticed there's a little bit of an issue here. What, what, what's, what's that issue?

Rajeev: Oh, here's the issue. How do we fix it? Oh, yeah. I mean, so my, my point is, I think it's going to be a lot. I think people who are really good at communication are going to see, are going to find it a lot easier to work with. But it's just going to be a different way of interacting right now. But when the internet, when the, when the internet first came out, when PCs first hit, people started interacting through keyboards and mice, right?

Rajeev: And so now there's going to be, I think, a much more visual and audio way of learning in terms of how to interact with, with the technology. And I think it's going to be work from anywhere, just like it is somewhat now with, with zoom and these kinds of things. But, and I think the tools are going to be so powerful that it's [00:38:00] going to really free up human imagination.

Rajeev: And sure, do I think it's going to look like a 40 hour workweek? Probably not. It might drop down a little bit. I think, but I think the other thing here is Is I think what governments around the world are going to have to grapple with is that in 10 years, if now, because of AI, people can live longer, or if people's workload is getting done faster, you know, what is that going to look like?

Rajeev: Are we going to be dominated by 10 companies globally who are going to control most of everything, right? Who knows what it's going to be like, right? Is it going to be Apple and NVIDIA and, you know, LVMH or whatever it is, or is it going to be the, is it going to be the 10, 15, 20 big, you know, Teslas or whatever are going to be the biggest companies in the world?

Rajeev: Are they going to dominate the entire world and say, okay. Harold, the tools are the tools. tools. I don't know who knows, but I think there's a lot of opportunities. There's a lot of opportunities for, for people to carve out their niches. There's a lot of opportunities for people to take advantage. There's, there's a lot of opportunity for success.

Rajeev: It's early. It's very early in the game. This is if you're a, if you're a soccer fan or a [00:39:00] football fan, I guess, and probably more to your listeners. Is that this is literally the whistle just blew on the pitch and the first pass has just happened That's how early we are in this game

Mehmet: absolutely, by the way, just you know for the audience google they have a project called project jarvis, right?

Mehmet: So it was reported last but they are working on it, which is the agent thing that I just mentioned Which is exactly what you've described So you have an agent that goes and do the job for you And if it has to go and talk to another agent, it will do that also as well Rajeev Really, I enjoyed the discussion.

Mehmet: You know, we could have done hours, I would say, because it's a very you know, interesting. And, you know, I urge everyone to go and learn how to use AI. Really. Before I let you go, Rajeev, just tell us where we can find more about you and get in touch.

Rajeev: Well, first of all, very much for having me. I really enjoyed our conversation.

Rajeev: Just a reminder that if you want to, people want to get started, My [00:40:00] book is awesome. It does really well. It's for beginners. It's called AI made simple. Please check it out There's a there's there's there's a second edition available. So make sure you get the second edition It's more a little bit more updated.

Rajeev: And so there's that people can connect with me on linkedin. You can You've got my name here. And then just make sure there's quite a few Rajeev Kapur's on LinkedIn. So just find the right one. You'll probably see my book on the little on the banner up there. So please connect with me on LinkedIn. People connect with me on Instagram at, at the Rajeev Kapur on Instagram.

Rajeev: And that's really it, you know, I speak all over the world. So if anybody's looking to If anybody is looking to looking for a keynote speaker or want me to come and speak to their company, help advise their company, please feel free to reach out to me in the show notes. You can put in my email address, also my email.

Rajeev: You can email me to request Rajeev at gmail. com. And then my own personal website is Rajeev. ai. So check out Rajeev. ai and you can also get in touch with me there.

Mehmet: Great. You made my, you [00:41:00] know, last part of the job easy because you said it will be in the show notes. So this is what I said. I tell people every time you don't have to just rewind and go and write down.

Mehmet: So I will make the life easy. You will find all the links, including Rajeev's LinkedIn profile, Instagram profile, and the email, the website. You'll find them on in the show notes. If you are listening to us on any of your favorite podcasting applications, you can find them in the description on YouTube also as well.

Mehmet: Najeeb, thank you very much again. I really appreciate it. And this is the note for the audience. If you just discovered us by luck, thank you for passing by. I hope you enjoyed. If you did, so As Rajeev was explaining about the amazon and the netflix give us a thumb up And share it with please your friends and colleagues and if you are one of the people who keeps coming Thank you for doing so.

Mehmet: I really appreciate all your support and all your comments and suggestions Thank you very much for tuning in. We'll meet again very soon. Thank you. Bye. Bye

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